I am look for any descendants of Samuel Smith and Elizabeth Jessop.They married 1848.
This information is from 1861 &1871 censuses.
1861 Samuel Smith Spade Spiker born Scotland ca 1821
Elizabeth Jessop Milliner age 35 born ca 1826
Elizabeth 12 Jane 10 Mary Ann 7 John Jessop 4 David Wallace 2

1871 Samuel Smith Blacksmith Striker age 50
Elizabeth Smith age 45
Mary Ann 17,John Jessop 14 Bolt turner, David Wallace 12 carter, Samuel 10 Scholar, William 5.

John Jessop Smith is my Greatgrandfather. He married Sarah Ann Holden(Blackburn) 1880.
Their children Agnes Ellen, Alice(my Nana),Ellen(died 1891)Mary Ann, Jane, John Robert, Joseph, Samuel.
Sarah and children came to Australia after John died in 1901. not sure what year

Hello tessob and Welcome to Smith Chat.

Thanks for telling us about your Smith interests, also for your nice message in our guestbook. And I confirm that I've received your interests via the online form too, for inclusion in the Smith List of Lancs. WRY & Isle of Man, & I'll contact you eventually with your Project Member ID. And as requested, you've now been included in the Forums'
Smith Project Usergroup (the red group).

Back to the important part - your Smiths!!
I'm thinking that the 1861 & 1871 Census information you mention must be from the Sheffield Census - for township of Attercliffe. Just have a couple of queries. Was Samuel's wife Elizabeth Jessop also from Scotland or from the Attercliffe/Sheffield area? I'm also assuming that their children were all born in that area too, but please correct if I'm wrong.

I notice that you have put "Blackburn" in brackets after mentioning the marriage of your grandparents John Jessop Smith and Sarah Ann Holden. Is this meaning that they were married in Blackburn East Lancashire (my own home town), and that they lived there until Sarah and the children emigrated? And if so, is it possible that John Jessop Smith died in Blackburn?

Maxine is the moderator for the West Riding Board, and we'll both try to help if at all we can. Hopefully other members who are researching their families of the same area will call into your topic here too in the near future. Look for forward to chatting again.

Carole

Yes tessob, as Carole says any help we can give you then please ask especaily specific questions.

Hi Carole
I have a enquiry, in the census information I got about
Sarah Ann Holden, she was born in Blackburn Lancashire about 1862.
On her marriage certificate it gives her birthplace as Preston Lancashire.
Also her youngest child Samuel was supposedly gone back to Sheffield. I am not sure if it was before WW2 or after, he had a wife and couple of children

Hi tessob,

Yes - it would be interesting to find more about Samuel and his descendents wouldn't it. I've just copied your message above, over to the Topic on the East & South-East Lancs Board and replied to you there about possible births for Sarah Ann in Blackburn and Preston Districts........
>> Sarah Ann HOLDEN >>

Chat again soon
Carole

Hi everyone,
Here is some info. John Jessop Smith died about September 1901. His daughter Ellen born 1890 died 1891.

John sister Mary married Joseph Coldwell (Couldwell) September 1873.
They had a son James 1874. Mary died 1874 most likely from child birth. Joseph died about 1889. James lived with his grandparents Samuel and Elizabeth Smith 1881.

Thanks for sharing that information with us. It may well be useful to someone else. Isn't it sad how many women died in chidbirth and how many babies died? I suppose they were all open to infection because of their poor diets and style of life. Some things are better these days aren't they?
Gillian

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Loads of to all

Theresa (Tess)

Thank you and wonderful Christmas greetings to you and yours. Gillian

Thank you for the christmas message and the same to you.

have a happy and safe christmas. robert

Lots of good wishes to you Robert and enjoy the sunshine! It is bitterly cold here, Gillian