Smiths of Oldham Lan & Pudsey WRY (78-FWN)

Subject: Smiths of Oldham Lan & Pudsey WRY (78-FWN) Fri 9 Nov 2007 - 13:08

Sept 06, Frank Walton of Preston, wrote:

Please can you help Re Smith Family of Pudsey

I am really struggling to find information on the Smith branch of my family. So any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Eleanor TROTH the lady in question was born in 1837 in Henley in Arden, Warks. This info was from the 1841 census. In the 1851 census she is known as Anna Ellen FROTH and is employed as a servant in Wolverton, Warks.

She then disapears from the scene, but turns up in the 1881 census as Ann Ellen TROTH, and is living with her son and two daughters in PUDSEY, W.R. YORKSHIRE.

In 1891 in the census she is Ann Hele. SMITH. Her son and two daughters are now also called SMITH.

In the 1901 census she is Ellen A SMITH, living with Ethel Minnie SMITH, [my grandma] Jeremiah and Isabel are now married and moved out. Emma is now a Methodist Lay Preacher.

On the marriage certificates of Isabel and Jeremiah they both have stated father John SMITH deceased. But I cannot find any information or reference to any father or husband.

Please can you help it`s driving me up the wall and back again.

In addition to all this all the four members of this family have changed their places and dates of birth on more than one occasion, along with variations of their surnames.

Any help would be sincerely welcome. Thank you. Frank.

Carole wrote:

Frank - You might already have the following information - but if not........
here are some notes for you.........

From records' indexes.....
1861 Census - appears that the Jones's -
Thomas, Ann Ellen age 24, and Jeremiah age 1 were living in Oldham.
Possible marriage to John Smith..........
Jan-March 1868 Ann Jones m John Smith
at St John the Baptist, Smallbridge (registers at Rochdale)
Oldham 1871 Census Index includes..
SMITH, John, and Ann age 33.
An Emma SMITH, age 12 also indexed but ?whether
same household.
Pudsey 1881 Census Index includes one "long-shot"...
John Smith, age 39, born Warwick (occ Saddler)
others at that household - born in Stanningley.

Hi Frank

Hows this going now? please feel free to reply under this message.

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Subject: Re: Smiths of Oldham Lan & Pudsey WRY (78-FWN) Sun 29 Jan 2012 - 17:57

January 2012; Smith List pages - hyperlinks updated

2008, Carole wrote:

Smith Project Member ID: 78-FWN

Town/s of Interest:
Lancashire - Oldham
W.R .Yorkshire - Pudsey, Stanningley
(& Warwickshire - Henley in Arden)

Researcher: Frank Walton.
Location: Preston Lancashire

Frank's interests summary was recompiled at.......... updated below

>> Smith Interests List of Lancs, WR.Yorks & Isle of Man page 23>>

individual entries are included in the
Smith Ancestors First Names A-Z Index

Should any other researcher hold data or possible connections to this family? please contact the member, and for the benefit of others, please also share the information on this topic.

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Carole, Smith Project/Smith Chat Admin www.smithfamilies.org.uk
Nothing is too small to know, and nothing too big to attempt (William Van Horne)