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 SMITHs of Accrington and Bolton

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PostSubject: SMITHs of Accrington and Bolton   Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 13:27

I am a new subscriber to the SMITH Families Forums and I hereby
introduce myself and my ancestors.

My name is Albert Raymond SMITH and I live in Welland, Ontario, Canada,
which is located about 20 km from Niagara Falls.

My father and his parents were from Bolton, Lancashire.
They emigrated to Canada leaving Liverpool on October 11, 1920.

My mother was born in Canada. Her parents (father WOOD, mother RICHARDSON)
and their ancestors are from Scotland, so that is another story.

My earliest Lancashire (paternal) ancestors that I know about are:

My Grandfather's Parents, Siblings, Etc. -
*Father: Henry SMITH, born abt 1844, Accrington, died before 1912.
...... 1881 residence at 38 Emmanuel Street G.Bolton
*Mother: Ann BETHELL, born abt 1849, Accrington

Children:
*Mary E. SMITH, born about 1868, Accrington. (Married ? SELKIRK)
...... (children: Albert, Connie, Nellie)
*Agnes SMITH, born abt 1871, Accrington.
*Betsy Jane SMITH, born abt 1876, Accrington. (Married ? CLARKE)
*William SMITH, born abt 1878, Accrington. (Married Cissie ?)
...... (child: Harold SMITH)
*Henry SMITH, born abt 1880, Bolton.
*Elisa SMITH, born abt 1882. Bolton. (Married ? - )
...... (child: Lizzie SMITH)
*Albert SMITH (my grandfather),
...... born June 8, 1891, 38 Emmanuel Street, Great Bolton,
...... died May 5, 1960, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada,
...... (Married Florence SMITH - more below)

My Grandmother's Parents, Siblings, Etc. -
* Father: James SMITH, born March 14, 1849, Lostock,
...... died January 10, 1923, Bolton. Police Detective Inspector.
...... Residences:
...... 1881 - 75 Peel Street;
...... 1890 - 21 Peabody Street;
...... 1891 - 9 Edward Street.
* Mother: Mary PIERCY, born April 20, 1849, Bistre, Flint, Wales,
...... died November 21, 1919, Bolton

Children:
*William SMITH, born December 9, 1891, Bolton, died March 4, 1940.
...... (Married Nellie Loughton? - children: Squire, Albert, Louis).
*Elizabeth Ann SMITH, born April 9, 1873, Bolton, died March 27, 1942.
...... (Married Walter LOFTUS - children: Annie, Fred).
*James SMITH, born February 12, 1875, Bolton, died August 10 1875, Bolton.
*James SMITH, born June 3, 1876, Bolton, died April 26, 1916, Persian Gulf (WW1).
...... (Married Mary HILTON - children: Albert, James, Lily, Phyllis).
*Mary Ellen SMITH, born November 7, 1877, Bolton, died January 19, 1954.
...... (Married William HOWARTH - children: Lily, Ethel).
*Hannah Jane SMITH, born February 2, 1879, Bolton, died October 26, 1879, Bolton.
*Alice SMITH, born April 7, 1880, Bolton, died November 13 1880, Bolton.
*stillborn SMITH, born September 18, 1881, Bolton.
*Albert SMITH, born October 12, 1882, Bolton,
...... died July 11, 1905, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
*Lily SMITH, born December 28, 1884, Bolton, died September 11, 1892.
*Herbert SMITH, born April 23, 1886, Bolton, died September 28, 1886, Bolton.
*Florence SMITH (my grandmother), born August 21, 1887, Bolton,
...... died January 22, 1944, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
...... (Married Albert SMITH - see below)
*Herbert SMITH, born May 22, 1890, Bolton, died December 9, 1971.
...... (Married Martha Alice BLOOR - child Geoffrey).

My Grandparents and their Children:
*Father: Albert SMITH (child of Henry SMITH above).
...... Residence in 1912 - 5 Ash Grove.
*Mother: Florence SMITH (child of James SMITH above).
...... Residence in 1912 - 9 Edward Street.
(They were married in the Registry Office, Bolton, April 27, 1912.
Witnesses - Jas. SMITH and Betsy Jane CLARKE.)

Children:
*Albert SMITH, born 1912, Bolton, died abt 1914.
*Albert SMITH (my father), born November 13, 1914, at home -
23 Robert Stanley Street, U.D., South West Bolton,
died (heart surgery) November 21, 1963, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

I would surely appreciate all the information I can get regarding my
ancestors listed here, and their descendents. Some of the above information above is "word of mouth" and may be far from accurate - but I have to start with what I have.

Thank you very much to all of you who have had the patience to get to the end of this too long message.

I visited Bolton in 1996 and loved it - everyone sounded just like my
grandparents.

Regards,

Albert R. Smith
133 Lea Crescent
Welland, Ontario L3C 7J7
Canada

Voice phone: 905-788-4097
Fax: 360-234-5391
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PostSubject: Re: SMITHs of Accrington and Bolton   Sun 26 Apr 2009 - 22:04

2008, Carole wrote:
Hello Albert and welcome to Smith Chat.

Thank you for setting out your SMITH family interests so clearly here on your Topic. That's great. Hope this is OK with you - but I've added "Accrington" into your Subject heading too - so that hopefully, it will be noticed by other SMITH of Accrington researchers, as well as Bolton.

My own SMITHs are of Burnley & Blackburn, so not far away from your Smiths' towns of origin.................please let us know if there are any records in particular you would like to seek out initially, for finding further evidence.......Hope to chat again soon.........

Very Happy Hi Albert,

Long time no speak. Hope you're keeping well. I'm wondering if you've got any earlier or later Census data yet for your Smith families? Just been looking at Accrington area births and marriages on Lancashirebmd, so decided to try again for some of yours, as didn't have any success last time.

I have a couple of queries, concerning your grandfather...
Albert SMITH born June 8, 1891, 38 Emmanuel Street, Great Bolton
and the information you gave for his parents...........
Henry SMITH (born abt 1844, Accrington) & Ann BETHELL (born abt 1849, Accrington)

Have you got Albert's birth certificate? and if so, does this confirm that his mother's maiden name was definitely BETHELL? Because as yet, still can't find a matching marriage for a Henry Smith to an Ann Bethell in Accrington (old Haslingden Registration District) nor in neighbouring towns in both the old Registration Districts of Blackburn and Burnley.

The following appears to be the only Accrington birth indexed for a Henry Smith between 1842-1844, so if your Henry was definitely born in Accrington around this date - then this is very possibly the correct one ............

Lancashire Birth Indexes 1843
SMITH Henry / mother's maiden name WHITEHEAD
Sub-District: Accrington : Registers now held at Preston Lancashire
Reference ACC/5/14
Matching GRO Births Index entry
1843 Oct to Dec Qu. Haslingden Registration District
Vol/page 21/414 : Henry Smith

Anyway - please let me know Albert, if you have anything else new?
and whether you have Henry and Ann's marriage details yet,
and if not... is it possible Ann's maiden name was something other than Bethell?

Will have another look at the Bolton records in near future.

Carole

PS: You might already know this....... but
I noticed that someone (member of the LDS church) has submitted some information to the Familysearch/IGI site which corresponds with the data you have for the Henry and Ann family (also naming Ann as Ann Bethell). But the data given there is not backed up with any proper evidence. Also it says there that both Henry and Ann were born in "Accrington, Bolton-le-Moors" - but that is inaccurate. For info.........
Accrington and Bolton-le-Moors are 2 completely separate places. Accrington a town in its own right in the old Haslingden Reg District, East Lancashire.
Bolton-le-Moors - is the same as Bolton / Great Bolton, in the old Bolton Registration district, South-East Lancashire (now in the modern-day Admin County of Greater Manchester). wave

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