New Row Methodist Chapel, Livesey Blackburn

Subject: Re: New Row Methodist Chapel, Livesey Blackburn Fri 3 Aug 2007 - 13:13

Hi Anne,

Oh that's interesting. I'll look up whatever info I've already got together about New Row Chapel & Cemetery & let you know. As I said - its not far from where I live. The chapel is still open & used but the Churchyard, I'm afraid, is not very well cared for & becomes very overgrown. Its at its best in Winter when covered with snow!! with just the gravestones popping up from the snow Very Happy

Looks lovely then with all the other surrounding hilly scenery.

I am planning to go up there soon to tidy up my great-grandparents grave & take a photo of it. (I think I'll have to take some bleach or Cif or something to get the gravestone clean - its full of moss!!).

Post any names you have Anne, who you think might have a gravestone there & then I can have a look around for you next time I go.

Now I know someone else is interested in New Row Cemetery I'll make a determined effort to find the records asap
(wish there were more hours in a day!! ck-smile

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Subject: Re: New Row Methodist Chapel, Livesey Blackburn Fri 3 Aug 2007 - 16:34

Wow thanks, I've been trying to get my dad (who lives in Sandy Lane, Lower Darwen) to go up to New Row & have a look, but although he says he will .... he never does. One of his elderly neighbours attends the chapel regularly, I can't ask her, she's too old.

My family names who "might" have been buried ( or baptised) there were. Woodburn & maybe Wilson.
My great great grandparents were Joseph & Louisa Woodburn. Joseph was the son of Thomas Woodburn & Mary Smith.

I know that Louisa's parents, Dennis & Hannah Wilson are buried at St Stephen's Tockholes, along wih two "babies", James who was buried age 8 months June 1876 & Ethel in 1884 age 14 months. But, as I said, my Nan always said there were "babies" buried at New Row, even if they were, I cannot see the graves being marked, unless their parents were buried there as well.

I think Louisa & Joseph might have been buried at St James's Blackamoor. I know my Nan & Grandad are buried there.

Back to the names. Louisa Wilson had 2 sisters & 2 brothers.
Mark Wilson was born circa 1839 (in Leeds) & was married to an Elizabeth. As far as I'm aware, they only had one child. So maybe there were others ?
John Wilson (b 1840) married Mary Leigh & I can only find 2 children, so maybe there were others. They moved to Blackpool in the 1880s.
Caroline Wilson b 1844 married Benjamin Kay. She died in 1883. They had 7 children that I'm aware of.
Eliza Ann Wilson b 1849 married Hugh Brindle & they had a large family. I know my Nan was close to her Brindle cousins, maybe there were others ?

Other than that, it would be anyone with the surname Woodburn !!

Anne

Subject: Re: New Row Methodist Chapel, Livesey Blackburn Fri 3 Aug 2007 - 17:15

Whoops I forgot ADA Woodburn who died aged 8 years in 1888. I haven't found her at Tockholes.

Anne

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Hello Justanne,

As you'll have discovered, I split your Mary Smith Topic thread into about 4 separate topics, & this is the "New Row" one.

Haven't had chance to get up to the New Row Churchyard since we last spoke. But will be doing so. My dad & I are going together sometime soon to clean up my great-grandparents gravestone, & will have a look around at other inscriptions whilst we're there. So will take your list of names. But in the meantime -

I'm still trying to find the records - this is where I'm at with it so far.....

Lancs Record Office Catalogue LANCAT
Searched again for New Row Methodist Church records -
nothing listed individually for New Row.
So - Downloaded Blackburn Non-conformists registers lists from LANCAT:
again, New Row is not listed - but there is this entry...........

BLACKBURN – Wesleyan Methodist Circuit
see DARWEN Wesleyan Methodist Circuit

So - then downloaded the Darwen List for non-comformist records..... this is the entry.....

DARWEN – Wesleyan Methodist Circuit [formerly Blackburn Circuit]
C 1794-1877 B 1794-1837 Orig reg MDA 1/1-3
C 1794-1837 B 1806-1837 Copy reg Microfilm MF 1/82

SO - appears that Record Office only have Blackburn/Darwen Circuit Methodist registers up to 1837.

Made enquiries at Blackburn Community History Library ........
No - they have no records there for New Row Methodist.

So where are the registers for after 1837?
NEXT - I intend to contact the Church itself - they must have them still in their possession. Blackburn Library agree that's where they probably are.

And they most probably will have the Churchyard records there too. I'll let you know what happens next.

Have you read the following book at all. I haven't yet, but there are Reference copies at both Blackburn and Darwen Libraries.....

Author PICKERING, A. D.
Title: New Row : the hamlet on the hill.
Publication data Author, 1986
Copy Availability
* Blackburn Reference Library Not for loan LOC / General
* Darwen Library LOCAL B51 Not for loan AREF / General

Chat again soon Anne Big Smile

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Subject: Re: New Row Methodist Chapel, Livesey Blackburn Wed 5 Sep 2007 - 10:22

Thanks Carole, I'm not terribly well up on this sort of messageboard - I'm afraid I have a habit oif wandering off the pont, probably because I'm used to chatting on several Yahoo Groups.

I haven't heard of the book you mentioned, I wonder if it is available online ?

Anne

Subject: Re: New Row Methodist Chapel, Livesey Blackburn Mon 23 Jun 2008 - 22:52

Hi Justanne,

Hope things are going OK for you?

Just a few notes to let you know that - after a long time putting it on hold, I recently returned to my quest to find the records for New Row Methodist Chapel, which as you know are not held at Blackburn Local History Library nor at the Records Office in Preston. Good News!! - I have located them and just waiting for permission to have access to them and a plan of the graveyard, and for permission to transcribe the Monumental Inscriptions, which it seems have not yet been done by anyone else. So I'll keep you informed how it goes.

Went up to the Graveyard last week with my dad, with the intention of looking around for any more of my family and for your surnames. Unfortunately at this time of year, apart from a small area that surrounds the chapel, the grass in the graveyard is about 4 foot high!! and we couldn't even reach my own Smith great-grandparents gravestone because of the nettles and thorns - in fact we couldn't even see it - nor a lot of the other gravestones for that matter, because of the foliage. So I'll have to wait again now until the Autumn when the grass dies down. It is such a pity that the graveyard isn't looked after better, its in such a beautiful location, isn't it?

Will go back up there soon though on a sunny day and take some photos of the Chapel itself, and the plaque over the door - which is "G.W.T. 1828 Wesleyan Methodist School Chapel". Apparently - G.W.T. are the intials of G.W. Turner of Stakes Hall, Mill Hill, who donated the land to the Wesleyan Methodists for the Chapel to be built in the 1820s. The Chapel is now a Grade 2 listed building.

I must say I am excited about having located the records!! Very Happy

l'll keep you informed Justanne.

Carole wave

Subject: Re: New Row Methodist Chapel, Livesey Blackburn Tue 24 Jun 2008 - 0:27

[just posted message above to Justanne]

Noted for interest..........

from British History Online - page
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=53116

Victoria County History Publication
A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 6
Township Lower Darwen
Author William Farrer & J. Brownbill (editors)
Year published 1911 Pages 275-278

Extract from this page..............

Subject: New Row Methodist Tue 24 Jun 2008 - 14:35

Thanks for thinking of me - wish these old churchyards were better looked after, don't you.

Busy today & tomorrow, will try & get back to you ASAP
Anne