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>>Whittaker - Portsmouth (1960s to New Zealand) >>

Carole wrote:

Hi Sheldon, ........... it's now looking that the following is your family........ The following are the only WHITTAKERs indexed for Civil Parish "Leicester, Formerly West Humberstone" in the 1901 Census. So no doubt all the same household............ 1901 Census - Index data Administrative county: Leicester Civil parish: Leicester Formerly West Humberstone Name / Age / Where born / Occupation Joseph Henry Whittaker 39 Lancashire Manchester Railway Goods Porter Ada Louisa Whittaker 32 Middlesex Isleworth Dorothy Ann Whittaker 2 Lancashire Manchester Juvenile **?Alice? Louisa Whittaker 0 Leicester Juvenile ** I think this is Olive not Alice (?1901 index trancript error?) Above indicates they moved from Manchester to Leicester about 1899. GRO Marriages Index Ref: Oct-Dec 1896 : Reg District Salford 8d 9 Whittaker, Joseph Henry & Lowe, Ada Louisa The marriage is also indexed on the Lancashirebmd database, showing that they were married at St James Church, Broughton in Salford........... Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1896 Names / Church / Register Office / Registers At /Reference WHITTAKER Joseph H/LOWE Ada L/Higher Broughton St James/ Salford Registry Office Ref: C46/2/58 here is >> a form you can use for Ref C46/2/58 >>> should you wish to order the marriage certificate directly from City of Salford Registry Office. More info on that form page. Possible birth for their daughter Dorothy Ann.............. Prestwich Registration District Ap-Jun 1898 Whittaker Dorothy Ann GRO ref 8d 420 (This is not appearing on Lancashirebmd as yet) Possible birth for their daughter Olive Louisa (if definitely Olive & not Alice) Leicester Registration District Apr-Jun 1900 Whittaker Olive Louisa GRO ref 7a 236 Possible marriage for Dorothy - if they did all indeed move to Portsmouth & was sometimes known as Doris??? Portsmouth Reg District Apr-Jun 1925 Whittaker Doris A & Albert E Core GRO ref 2b 1275 Thought would note that - in case your dad or uncle recognise the surname Core?

Hi Carole,

Thanks for this, yes it sounds great.
It's really interesting to learn of your roots and find out where you come from, as I didn't get to meet my Grandfather Whittaker, I started doing this to get a better picture of him and what he was like. And now I hope to trace back my Whittaker family line a bit further and get a better idea of my family history.

Thank you for getting me on track. Now I just need to find time to keep searching.


Regards,

Sheldon

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>>Whittaker - Portsmouth (1960s to New Zealand) >>

Carole wrote:

Hi Sheldon, Can I take it that the following is definitely your Joseph Henry Whittaker?............... 1901 Census - Index data Administrative county: Leicester Civil parish: Leicester Formerly West Humberstone Name / Age / Where born / Occupation Joseph Henry Whittaker 39 Lancashire Manchester Railway Goods Porter Ada Louisa Whittaker 32 Middlesex Isleworth ............. etc......... If so - he was indeed a Manchester born lad, & so I'll copy the information to the East and South-East Lancs Board.

Hi Carole, Yes it does sound like them, and I found his death in June, 1913 in Leicester, Leicestershire, England. So the Whittakers seemed to move around a bit, and had many different jobs.I always assumed that in those days you had few jobs and stuck at them for a lifetime, but it looks like some kept it changing. :)I am trying to find out more about them through my uncles, hopefully their parents talked about them.
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Hi again Sheldon,
Now that we know that Joseph Henry was from Manchester (south-east Lancs), as you can see I've started this new Topic on our "East & South-East" Lancashire Board, and copied above some of our posts from your other Topic
>>Whittaker - Portsmouth (1960s to New Zealand) >>
(same copies also retained there)

The 1911 Census has gone online today & so I've been experimenting on it - looking for my own family households. So, tried a search for your Joseph's criteria.........
John Henry Whittaker, born Manchester, 1862 +/- 2years. Got this one result.........

Last name/First names/Sex/Birth year/Age in 1911/Census District/County
WHITTAKER JOSEPH HENRY / M / 1862 / 49 / Leicester / Leicestershire

So you could follow it up on the new 1911 site - for the full household transcript, or download the Census Return image - which will probably be in Joseph's own handwriting.
http://www.1911census.co.uk/

Good Luck!! and please keep us informed,
Carole

Thats Brilliant, it has their address, his job, his signature, and the names of my great aunts and uncles.Really happy to have it, thank you.

I have just sent off an order for my Great Grandparents marriage certificate, it'll take a while until I get a reply I think.I am also thinking about ordering my Grandfathers service record from the Ministry of Defence, but i'll need my fathers help on that one as i have to prove kinship to get access to the information.

Hi Sheldon,

That's great news!! You're really moving on with your Whittaker research. Hope it doesn't take too long before you receive the marriage certificate, which of course should confirm both the bride and groom's fathers' names, so you'll then be able to attempt to find their families on earlier Censuses

My dad, now in his early 80's, was in the Royal Air Force when he was young. He recently sent for his own service record - which I must say is wonderful to read!! Identifies him as having "golden hair", and includes notes about other distinguishing marks. I am wanting to send for one of my great-grandfather's army records, that's my mum's grandad. So would I have to ask my mum to sign something for proof of our relationship? I'm wondering? Please will you let me know how you go on obtaining your great-grandad's service record.

Chat again soon,
Carole

Hi Carole,Yes am moving forward, but taking it slowly. I am actually after my grandfathers service record, he was in the Navy and assigned to the HMS Hood in WW2.So proving kinship for me is not that hard, I am not sure how far back you need to go for your great grandfather, but I suppose you might have to get a copy of the birth certificates for yourself, your mother, and your grand father to prove your line of decent... but not having done that myself yet I am not 100% sure.

Well done and good luck!! Gillian

Hiya Gillian and Sheldon,

Yes you're doing really well Sheldon, oh & I'm sorry - I knew it was your grandad's and not your great-grandad's service record you wanted - slip of the "tongue" or typing fingers!! or a "senior moment"

On my dad's RAF service record - at the age of 18 my dad had named his mother as his "next of kin" (Annie Smith nee Whittaker) although his dad, my grandad, was still alive. My dad says he thinks that was because he had to give the person who would receive his "pay" as next of kin and so that would be his mother. Just thought would mention that - so that, if in the future, any of us obtain Service Records for our ancestors - if they have given their next of kin as their mother - it doesn't necessarily mean their father was deceased.

The service record I want for my great-grandad Amos Topping is for WW1 time. He survived the war although was hospitalised for a long time due to war injuries. We have Amos's medals, and I downloaded a copy of his "Medal Card" from the National Archives website.

Carole

Hi Carole,Thats cool, I hope I can get my Grandfathers service record as it'll help me learn a little bit about him in those days i think.Ancestors are great though, always full of surprises. we are so focused on ourselves and the future, we forget that those that came before us had facinating lives... worth remembering and studying.My Uncle informed me of his great uncle (not entirely sure exact sepeation), was actually awarded a VC in WWI, and has a street named after him in his old neigborhood.
http://www.memorials.inportsmouth.co.uk/vc/ockendon.htm
Sheld

A Victoria Cross! How wonderful! I recognize the name 'Ockendon' and I am sure he has been featured recently on TV around the time of Remembrance day. Thank you for reminding us about him. It is always good to hear about valour. Gillian

Hi Carole,I recieved a copy of my Great Grandparents marriage certificate today, and it has confirmed a few things.That my Great Grand Parents were married in the Parish Church, St James, Higher Broughton City of Salford. My Great Grand fathers occupation at the time was of a warehouseman, later he becomes a clerk, and later a pay accounts clerk.Great Grand Mothers, father was a coach driver, his occupation listed as a Cab Proprietor.And my Great Grand Fathers, father is listed as being a Builder and Contractor.My Uncles second cousin apprently inherited my great grand parents estate from his mother (my great aunt), he's passed away and there is a legal firm researching the family lines to split the estate up between them all, theya re geniologisit as well, so they'll supply us any information the uncover about the family.  So thats good news too.  :)I feel like I know them better now, next is to plan a trip and actually go there... but that wont be for a few years i think.

Congratulations you really are making exciting progress! I look forward to the next installment! Gillian

Hi Sheldon & Gillian,

Yes that's great news!! Sheldon, what name does it give on the marriage certificate for Joseph Henry Whittaker's father? for interest? You should be able to move further backwards now with your Whittaker line when you're ready to. . I'm really pleased for you & keep us informed, it's interesting to follow your progress.

Carole

Hi Carole,Yes it is great, in time I will follow it up further.  His fathers name is Joseph Whittaker as well, but no middle name.  On the certificate it shows his father as being a Contractor, which fits an earlier census that I found, which has his father as being a builder/contractor.-Sheld